From Debtors to Renters: A Dialogue on the Great Reset

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Editor’s note: The following brief discussion appeared in a private forum. It was prompted by the two articles linked below.

China’s population may start to shrink this year, new birth data suggest

India defuses its population bomb: Fertility falls to two children per woman

Rifleman: When you consider that the debt-based bankster economy only works with a constantly growing population, is it any wonder that the humanity-hating billionaires had to come up with the Great Reset?

As I understand it, the Great Reset turns the average human being from a debtor to a renter. Is it that simple in its essence? And does that make sense as a way to continue controlling the wealth while the debt footprint shrinks?


Ruricolus: That seems to be the gist of it: make the common man a renter with subscriptions for everything from his pod to his food (made of bugs) to his medication-replaced immune system. If you own nothing, and everything you need is delivered through services you purchase via apps which track your social credit, your behavior can constantly be adjusted and corrected. If you make trouble, you can be deleted from the system and presumably starve without it. The lizard overlords can sit astride this system like players of a sim game, changing a price here or a stipend there to encourage/discourage something for the maximum overall efficiency.

If they were as smart as they think they are, you’d end up with something like Camazotz[1]: bleak and soul-destroying, but functional. Since they aren’t, they would act out all their personal grudges and perversions through the system until the whole thing is in flames.


Marcellus: Modern Econ is a Ponzi scheme based on perpetual growth. Populations shrinking post-boomer = economic collapse.

Not wanting to be dethroned in the chaos of a new system emerging, they are trying to lock everyone into a digital gulag where all things are monitored and controlled with the current elite still riding on top of the system in security and technological luxury.

The “Green New Deal”, food shortages, etc. are to ensure they control the resources and you can’t cobble enough together to be a threat to them. I think what kicked it into gear and made them go for broke was the Brexit and Trump whammies that showed they were vulnerable.


Ruricolus: Yes, it’s strange that they’ve gone from the goal of perpetual growth to one of controlled stagnation/shrinking, and I think that’s confused a lot of people who are stuck in the old bankster paradigm where it was all about driving up profits and stock value. Maybe the switch just looks necessary based on the shrinking populations created by globohomo’s anti-natal culture, or it’s what they wanted all along but only now feel is possible thanks to technology.

China has been leading the way, with a shrinking population that’s basically forced to use government-monitored apps for daily life. Western elites want to copy that the same way they wanted to copy the Soviets’ top-down control of things like food production and distribution. Everyone now admits that failed, but there are always excuses for why it never worked before but totally will this time.


Marcellus: Final thought. “Build Back Better” means they have no intention of allowing things to go back to how they were.


Lysander: The final enslavement of mankind. A system that rules over a person from before he is born until after his death with no freedom outside the system. Everything is artificial: food, entertainment, immune systems, relationships, living conditions, all controlled by the things on top. These semi-men, these men without chests, seek to be God and Nature. Joke’s on them.


[1] From Madeleine L’Engle’s science fantasy novel, A Wrinkle in Time: (Infogalactic) “A planet of extreme, enforced conformity, ruled by a disembodied brain called IT….The horror of the place arises from its ordinary appearance, endlessly duplicated.”

Raised in a home filled with books on Western civilization, P.G. Mantel became a lover of history at an early age. An amateur writer of verse, he makes himself useful as an editor for Men of the West.


  1. Theophrastus once said “The enemy is always looking for weaknesses.” But the enemy likes it even better if he manages to impose a weakness on someone, then the enemy doesn’t even have to look.
    Lysander and Roosh would get along.
    “You will own nothing” implies “You will own no firearms.”

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