Alt-Right, Meet Rad-Trad

January 22, 2018
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Editor’s Note: We offer another thought-provoking article from our friend, Laramie  Hirsch.

The Alt-Right and the Traditional Catholic movements are very similar to one another.  Both of these developments took form as countermeasures within institutions that were branded as the leaders for sensible, time-honored conduct–institutions that abandoned their values in exchange for the weak positions of their avowed enemies.  The Alt-Right and the Traditional Catholic movement are isolated groups of people who struggle to cope in a compromised world of emotional fragility and abasement.  Both the Alt-Right and the Traditional Catholic movements are ostracized and demonized by a majority of their constituents who have caved into a slackened degeneracy.

Counter Revolution
Consider how the Alt-Right came into existence.  After decades of empty promises from so-called conservatives, and after years of compromise, the American Right Wing movement before President Trump was regarded as a gaggle of silly, impotent men.  Thinkers such as Patrick Buchanan were regarded as “paleoconservatives,”  and many on the Right held the cynical attitude that the Republican Party was really the Democrat Party 2.0.
Then, during eight years of the Obama presidency–one of the most racist, Marxist, pro-abortion, anti-Christian presidents we’ve ever had–a Dark Enlightenment had formed among many right-wing thinkers.   Obvious evil manifested within our own government.  During that presidency, the subdued Right Wing could only produce feckless and contemptible non-reactions.  This dire predicament served as a catalyst for the coalescing of a new mode of thinking, which became the Alternative Right.
This sort of situation also occurred within the Catholic Church.  Throughout the 20th Century, prelates we’re making many compromises.  Many priests wanted to change different practices–and even dogmas within the Church–in order to bend the Church into a more recognizably modernist institution that would “fit the times.”  Incremental changes were made here and there over the decades.  Conspirators were gradually turning the Catholic Church into a lukewarm non-governmental charity organization.  As Catholic blogger Steve Skojec recently put it, Catholicism was about to become a “bourgeois, bubble-gum chewing religion of suburban good cheer” not worth dying for.

Then, in the late 1960s, a big meeting of the world’s Catholic leaders was held.  This meeting, Vatican II, was regarded as an event in which the Church opened her windows to the outside world to “let in the fresh air.”  This was a historical meeting that opened the door to innumerable compromises in the Catholic Church.  As a result, faithful Catholics were left hanging–just as it would happen years later with the Alt-Right, who also refused to give up their values.

One man, Archbishop Lefebvre, still loved the old Mass that the majority of bishops were getting rid of.  He formed an organization called the Fraternal Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX), and in it he and his priests would continue to perpetuate the Traditional ways of Catholicism.  From the endurance of the SSPX, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP) was formed, which is another wing of Catholics who banned together to combat encroaching modernism.  And during the papacy of Pope Benedict XVI, many diocesan priests took the initiative to start holding Mass in the Traditional Latin.
There is much more to say about these groups of Traditional Catholics that I’m leaving out, but this much of the saga will suffice for our purposes.  For now, realize that both the Alt-Right and the Traditional Catholic movement came about as a counter-revolutionary act against a slowly weakening base that betrayed its own people.  These counter-movements have had to think outside the box and function awkwardly, as the primary heads of the institution have been cannibalized and replaced with their opposites.

Both of these groups are derided by both their enemies, as well as by the institutions they stem from.  They take flak from all sides.  The Alternative Right, for example, is automatically regarded as a hate group.  USA Today has branded the Alt-Right “a group whose ideology includes racism, populism, white supremacy and white nationalism.”  While it is true that white nationalists fall under the umbrella of being in the Alternative Right, many others in the movement have no interest in the race politics at all.  Critics use the most scarlet terminology available to paint the movement as evil.

But for the Alt-Right, one of the saddest betrayals comes from within the supposed Right itself.  Never Trumpers and modernists with minds closed to the past despise this new force of thinkers.  These so-called moderates conserve nothing and hopelessly offer little but the status quo.  With pleasure, they distance themselves from the Intellectual Alternative Right, shunning it, and actually taking a stand with the Left.

Traditional Catholics are also attacked from within their own institution.  Like the Alt-Right, Traditional Catholics are lampooned in mainstream Catholicism.  Two centuries ago, voices of authority within the hierarchy would actually cheer for Traditional Catholics.  Today, these very same authorities have given in to secular modernism, and they actually join in the hateful chorus to tear traditionalists down.  The term “Rad Trad” stems from an insult in 2013, when adherents of the New Order of the Church (Novus Ordo) began to tear at the “Radical Traditionalists.”
Even Pope Francis has scorned Traditional Catholics, calling them self-absorbed, promethean neo-Pelagians and rigid triumphalists.  Under current leadership, the sanctity of the institution of marriage has been put in jeopardy, acceptance of homosexuality is being toyed with, and some priests even tease the idea of married priests.  At this rate, the Catholic Church will be a completely different institution within decades, if not sooner.  The people who pay for this change–the Rad Trads–are the pesky hold-outs who dare to buck the new system.

Fellow Travelers
Both the Alternative Right and the Traditional Catholics have fought against the unhealthy transformation of their organization.  Moderate sell-outs are viewed as trendy and “with it.”  Those who hearken back to sensible positions of ages past are viewed with suspicion and heaped with scorn–even by those on “their side.”  The Alt-Right is a mocked and demonized political group that seeks to steer the remains of Western civilization towards preservation and stability.  The Traditional Catholics are a persecuted people who struggle to hold onto whatever remnants of the Church they can, keeping the pilot light on amidst an ever-growing abomination of desolation.

Whether these groups can hold out during the storm remains to be seen.  It may be that neither group will resemble itself before the storm of history has passed.  For now, however, it can be said that these groups overlap, and in a certain sense, are traveling on a parallel path.  Will one group find the other?  That remains to be seen.


  1. Let’s hope so. Let them find each other, and then find others keeping their faith against the same pressures. Whether you’re Catholic, Orthodox, Evangelical, or other Protestant, if you are faithful to Christianity you are under attack. They hate you because they hate Him.
    Learn from each other, support each other, yet remain fast to your respective beliefs. The Orthspphere needs a counterpart of sorts to omni-nationalism….

  2. As it happens, both the Alt-Right and the “Rad Trads” are meeting up, bit by bit. Traditionalists tend to be more to the Right because of their objection to abortion, among other things, but don’t really have a home in the Republican party or in any of the standard “Right Wing” European parties, at least not from what I’ve observed. Mostly they’re Men-of-the-West types, which makes sense, and they’re cultural as opposed to political animals. It’s fascinating to watch, especially as I fall squarely into those categories but am somewhat geographically cut off from any obvious fellow thinkers. Look for this to grow in coming years.

    • “So, let me ask a question, as a non-White Catholic….what’s your view on Catholics of color?”
      The question is a bit broad. I mean, Catholics of color, which I take it you mean non-whites–any Catholic at all, whether from the line of Shem, Ham, or Japeth, can strive to get to Heaven with the same graces God has bestowed upon all of mankind.
      Did you have a more specific question in mind?

      • Hello . I am interested in the SSPX but am hesitant to make any steps towards involvement unless a couple of basic points can be clarified and I hope you would be able to help me to understand since you are an authority on the subject.
        1) does the SSPX (traditional catholic church) support implicitly or explicitly racial preservationism?, ie. the preservation of one’s racial identity or is it indifferent or hostile to such a practice?
        2) re: the jews: what does conversion to christ mean where they are concerned? Does it mean that they can simply claim they are christian and then all of their past sins are ‘wiped away’?
        I know these questions may sound crude and/or naive but I am trying to find my path in terms of spirituality and am concerned about the continuance of european identity.
        Thanks for your time.

        • Hello. I believe that the SSPX is indifferent to this question. I am not certain they have any kind of an official stance on the idea of racial preservation. My guess is that one would have to come back through church history and look up the right kind of vocabulary for an answer to your question. If we look back at thinkers throughout the last 2000 years, you will probably be wanting to find discussions about the preservation of nations. That, I think, would give you a broad answer about the Catholic Church, and since the SSPX is traditional about the Catholic Church, that would probably be their answer.

          #2. The Jews need to become Catholic. They need to swear off their Talmudism, and they need to become baptized and confirmed in the Church of the Messiah Who started it. And if there are any public Jews who have committed public acts of subversion and crime against Christ’s Church, then they need to publicly repent of it. End of story. These people need to be brought into the sunlight for what they have done.

          So, if Ben Shapiro decided to convert to the Catholic Church, then he would have to very publicly repent of his sins, and publicly come into the Catholic Church. He could not just pretend that his past never existed. Milo was an excellent example of public repentance, in my opinion.

  3. One big and major difference between the Alt Right as a whole and the Trad Cats is contraception. The Alt Right continually complains/whines about the White Race being wiped out, being genocided, but there elephant in the room is contraception. They themselves are their worst enemy in that they themselves are contracepting themselves out of existence. At the same time they don’t like to discuss the major problem of contraception. They want to have their White Race and “eat it” at the same time. They complain about the White Race being wiped out when they themselves are cooperating with the Jewish Supremacists who encourage them to contracept. Thus, Alt Right is like the child who kills his parents and then complains about being an orphan. Go figure!

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