The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon

January 13, 2017
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by Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

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  1. There’s a little something else from Kipling which seems to be very appropriate:
    “The Saxon is not like us Normans, his manners are not so polite.
    But he never means anything serious ’til he talks about justice and right.
    When he stands like an ox in the furrow with his sullen-set eyes on your own,
    And grumbles “This isn’t fair dealings”, my son, leave the Saxon alone.
    “You can horsewhip your Gascony archers, or torture your Picardy spears,
    But don’t try that game on the Saxon; you’ll have the whole brood ’round your ears.
    From the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf in the field,
    They’ll be at you and on you like hornets and, if you are wise, you will yield.”

    • That’s awesome, old Sarge, and relevant to this “debate”. They complain the mere replacement of the word “English” with “Saxon”, probably knowing little about the history of that land. The Saxons are the original English. Yes, the Normans were gentrified Vikings who took over and hence were counted English as the centuries advanced and history faded. This little section describes very well the difference between the Northerners of Albion, and the newly arrived down South. Any with any life experience or wisdom can see immediately what Kipling is saying, and well would he appreciate the re-presentation of his rhyme exactly now. It fits this time in history precisely. If Kipling did not see it coming, because of the wrongs that were being perpetrated then, then his hand was guided by God to write it for us now. Several lines in this deeply meditated rhyme, in the best traditions of English folk poem, clearly refute these hysterical hypocritical allegations. “Till every count should be proved”. These people did not hate without reason, and even when reason was given they did not haste to regard that reason truly meant, until they had proved it “well and proper” as one from thence might say. Then their eyes narrowed further as count after count is proved, just as now. And then it was not hysterically summoned by sensationalist and irrational media articles, it wasn’t stirred by some egotistic media preacher, for “No man spoke it aloud”. They didn’t even discuss it themselves, because they knew. And from the same community, they all knew. This is us now. This has happened. The hatred, as can be seen right here in this thread, is directed not from us but against us. We are hunted, dispossessed and dealt with with extreme and disparate injustice. It has become unlawful for a Saxon to defend his life, or rescue his child, while the imported armies range with impunity stealing, smashing, ridiculing and even raping and killing, even our children. For all Saxons, and all Saxon descendants, and indeed Normans, Picts and Celts, and we can invite in the Vikings as we are all being persecuted the same. This is our song. And Kipling does not just consent, he roars his encouragement.

  2. Kipling never wrote a poem with this title. Some white supremacist extremists have taken a poem called “The Beginnings”, written by Kipling in 1916 at the height of WW1, months after losing his son in a war that Kipling felt to be a struggle for civilisation against barbarism, in this case, ironically, against actual Saxons. They have taken it out of context and changed the title of the poem. And they actually changed the words of the poem itself, the word “saxon” isn’t even in it., THEN they attribute it to Rudyard Kipling whilst using it to promote racial hatred. Scandalous on several counts. I really hope this is illegal. Those responsible for Kipling’s legacy must be informed. He cannot defend himself against this abuse of his work.

    • Here comes the word “Supreamcist”. Do not worry Cjhristopher Colles – probably a leftie, libtard, ANTIFA, RACE MIXER, SAul ALionsky’s follower, and Western civilization destroyer. Or a Jew. Do not fret the rope is waiting for you. Your name is marked.BTW exchange supremacist for DEfender.

      • This is a leftist troll. While the word English may have been supplanted by Saxon, the racial animus today emanates from the left. As a proud Saxon descendent, I’m still waiting for my reparations from Denmark due to THEIR Viking ancestors enslaving mine 😏.

        There will always be the anachronistic haters who truck in ancient racial shibboleths (as few as they are) but the divisive liars who are promoting the increasing racial attacks by blacks on whites, Jews AND Asians are the real problem and react with cries of “racism” when this is pointed out.

        There is no “alt-right”. This, like blm/antifa, the voting rights calumny, anti-police rhetoric and immigration lie are leftist boondoggles used to foment the aforemention violence and its inevitable response….If white supremacy is all you got in the least racist country on Earth you’re going to have to try harder

    • Thank you for pointing this out, Christopher. To modify someone’s poem in this way is disgusting. And if white nationalists wished to use it, it requires only a smidgen of imagination to identity with the English of the poem. Alas, they are as boorish and stupid as their Leftist counterparts.

      • There’s nothing wrong with nationalism. You must be a dirty k1ke or brainwashed to believe otherwise.

        • You can always tell a leftist by their simulation of neonazi hate. The REAL culprits use medium tone and scholarly references to sell their bigotry.

    • Your living in a dream world Christopher. Kipling must have had some kind of foresight to see what is happening today in England. This poem gives us strength to fight for the good to eradicate the poison and diseased infestation of foreign subhuman that has entered our country We were strong once and we need that strength again to rid ourselves of Muslim blacks Asians and all the other infestations that has ruined out beautiful England

      • Nope.

        The West has a multitude of minority immigrants who are conservative and understand they came to GET AWAY from the bigotry you espouse.

        I’ll take a black (l-gbt, Asian, female, whatever) conservative over a white racist, marxist, prog hater any day of the week…..and TWICE on Tuesday. 😁

      • Newsflash, reprobate, the English have Angle, Saxon, Jute, Viking and mostly Norman (French) blood as any fool can see by the large influence Latin has on the language.

        Language, like life, is a river and no anachronistic bigotry can change that.

        Death to marxism.

        Totalitarian societies allow the scum with very bad ideas to surface. We can see it clearly now in the attempt by globalists to subject the planet to rules that are anathema to liberty.

  3. There’s actually a school of thought amongst the God-fearing civilized patriots: that “Saxon” is actually a shortened form of “Issac’s Sons”. In other words, the “Lost Tribes of Israel”, or the 10 tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel (who were NOT Jews, btw…only the southern tribes of Judah who were exiled in Babylon are the forebears of Jews) settled west of the Caucasus Mountains and are now today’s Caucasians.
    From the viewpoint of ancient history, “Israel” does not equate with “Jews”. Israel and Judah became two SEPARATE kingdoms right after King Solomon died. They were STILL two separate kingdoms when Christ came onto the scene, and had been for more than 900 years. Christ said He came back “for the lost sheep of Israel”, NOT Judah. For more detailed info, see

  4. Now THIS is to what I referred.
    Scholarly support for bigotry.

    There are good people (quite a few of us) and bad people (racists on both sides of the aisle).

    Pretty simple, actually.

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